"When Goalies Collide"

You kids out there may not realize this, but there are levels to a hockey fight.

There's the event we call "pushy shovey". Basically, everyone mills about, tossing threatening looks at each other. But no punches are thrown.

Then you've got your average, every day fight. Two guys square off, grab each other, and start throwing punches. Few will land, fewer still will hurt and it's all over in about 45 seconds.

Rarely, you'll see a guy square off against some one he shouldn't (as in the first minute of this fight). Hockey fights are usually pretty even. Believe it or not, there's an etiquette involved:

Then come "The Battles". The fights between two guys that, years later, fans still talk about. A perfect example are the fights between Tie Domie and Bob Probert. Either these 2 guys hated each others guts or they just simply loved to fight each other:

But what really gets fans up out of their seats, what really gets Canadian blood boiling, is not just the good old (and no longer seen) bench clearing brawl but - "When Goalies Collide".

Imagine being a hockey goalie. You spend the entire game, trapped in front of 24 sq ft of net with 5 guys slinging frozen rubber at you at 95 mph. It's gotta make you a bit nuts.

Suddenly, your teammates are involved in a fight. The rules say you have to stay out of it but, every now and then, goalies break the rules. From either end of the ice, each team's goalie communicates silently down the ice to his opposite number. And then it's on.

They skate toward each other, awkward, ungainly because of the pads and equipment and start throwing punches. Goalies aren't the best fighters but, when goalies fight, it's *always* a sign the game has gotten out of hand:

Do a search on YouTube for "Goalie Fights. It'll make you wish YouTube was in High definition. :)

Two words....

PATRICK ROY!! Big, Canadian-born goalie who loved to mix it up at the drop of a hat...err, glove. Always loved watching him play (and fight) the position.

Garth Snow wasn't nearly the

Garth Snow wasn't nearly the goalie that Roy was but he liked to fight too. :)
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Shawn King
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I remember back in the 80's,

I remember back in the 80's, the L.A. Kings had not just one, but two good fighters: Dan Maloney and Dave Hutchison. Maloney made a name for himself as a tough guy against the Blues when Steve Durbano challenged him to a fight and lost badly. From what I recall from the radio announcer, Durbano got in four or five GOOD shots on Maloney's shoulder area while Maloney drilled Durbano several times square in the face. Durbano left the game with a bloody nose.

If memory serves, there was a game between the Kings and the Flyers in the '80's at the Forum in L.A. where the teams set a league record for PIM for both teams. I couldn't remember what the record was, but I think it was close to 300. Again, if memory serves, Dave Hutchison received over 60 PIM's that game. It was something like a double minor for roughing, a major for fighting, 10 minute misconduct, a gross misconduct and a game misconduct. Something like that, I don't remember exactly.

About that fight between Roy and Vernon: what was REALLY funny about that fight was what Roy did before the fight. The Avs were getting thrashed by the Red Wings and Colorado late in the game started playing rough, basically sending a message to the Wings saying, "Okay, you beat us today. But, it'll be a different story next time." Naturally, the Wings hit back and a few scuffles flared up. ESPN cameras caught Roy calmly watching the whole thing, and then, just as calmly, he slowly took off his catching glove and put it on top of the goal behind him, undid his blocker glove, took off his mask and leisurely skated over toward Vernon gesturing, "C'mon, let's get it on!" It was hilarious! If you get a chance to see the tape, do so. You'll be laughing your rear off!

Shawn, remember the days in the NHL BEFORE the third man in rule? My gosh, it was something! Benches cleared, the whole bit! I've always wondered why Major League Baseball never instilled a third man rule.

"If memory serves, there was

"If memory serves, there was a game between the Kings and the Flyers in the '80's at the Forum in L.A. where the teams set a league record for PIM for both teams.

That record has since been broken - it's now 419 mins between the Sens and Flyers.

"Shawn, remember the days in the NHL BEFORE the third man in rule?"

Yeah - it was *glorious*. :)

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Shawn King
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Hockey fights

I've been going to hockey games since 1970 when the Canucks first came into the NHL, actually before that with the WHL, went to my first NHL game with my dad when I was 6-7 years old. Gone definitely are the days of the good old fashioned donnybrook - though truth be told, I can never really watch a fight live without getting sick to my stomach, but hockey fights never seemed as "real" as real life fights. I'm definitely not an advocate of the bench clearing brawl, believe me.

Having said that however, I have two especially vivid memories of games in Vancouver in the 80's. Bench clearing brawl happened once particular game when Philly came to town to the point where even the backup goalies (Phil Myre and Glen Hanlon) challenged one another. It was pretty wild.

The other memory, while I was working for the Canucks (85-88) we had drafted a young guy by the name of Craig Coxe. Man, Coxie could fight. I remember sitting in my red seats in the corner at the old Coliseum and a fight broke out right in front of me; Craig Coxe was pummeling a guy (can't remember who) - it was wild. I mean I was so close, I could see the expressions/reactions on the players' faces as each punch hit. Ouch! ;-)

With the way the rules have changed, it's almost rare to have a one-on-one fight let alone a brawl these days but let me tell ya, I'd rather see a good toe to toe on the ice between two guys who are capable of doing that, then some of the ugly incidents we've seen lately, like checking from behind, Bertuzzi's punch of a couple of years ago on Steve Moore, or the more recent stickwork by Chris Simon of the Islanders.

Sly

Roy hasn't changed much now

Roy hasn't changed much now that he's a Coach in the Juniors.

Roy Fined

Sly

LOL OK...that's

LOL OK...that's funny!
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Shawn King
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"I'd rather see a good toe

"I'd rather see a good toe to toe on the ice between two guys who are capable of doing that, then some of the ugly incidents we've seen lately"

No kidding. It seems when Bettman took "fighting" out of the game, he let in crap like that.
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Shawn King
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